I apologise to the readers and Outlook for using harsh language. Bye to everybody as I do not want to be the reason for pollution in comments. Thanks to all of you.

Zulfiqar! Your language shows your culture, family upbringing and your social status. Your uncles of underworld, Simi and other terrorists are innocent like you. Do not worry about the size of my brain. It should function which is not in your case. You are able to bark because you are a minority in India and not in your favourite countries. Your mentioning about my residence everytime, shows your envious nature. Do not pollute this blog. Everytime I expose your lies and without shame you are denying it by becomjing more and more mad.

@Prem
>>>That is why you conveniently forget atrocities by your brothers (at the instance of Congress)

Which atrocities? Ghazni loot or Khilji rape ? or the latest ones like Shah bano, article 370, haj subidy etc.. which have making your life so miserable. Be little specific, coz the grievances of Advani and his ilk, like you, goes back to centuries and it confuses a hell of a lot for me and "my brothers"!!

Anyway I thought you and I are discussing as Individual, how foolish of me, I should be answerable for every Muslim on earth. Do you miss out on the latest NEWS OF massace in Turkey, "my brothers" committed? If you have known am sure you would have listed and told me see you guys are "like that only"!!

BJP is not protecting you in singapore, from the Chinese hordes? This comment shows your pea size brain. Whom should BJP be protecting you from? Why is the Army for? What is Police force for?

Maybe in your cheddi universe you want a BJP and congress to protect for their respective vote bank!1 Nice Idea for your dense head! yadav sena of SP, dalit sena of BSP, Brahmin sena of BJP, Kappu sena of pp, etc..

The divisive politics of Advani and its result India will suffer for a long time. This fellow felt hurt, when asked for his contribution to nation? Perhaps he wanted to list his "contribution" of blood bath of his rath yatra, relese of Purlia criminals, release of terrorist in Hijack case, sowing divisive and exclusion politics.

Zulfiqar! I do not take pleasure in anybody's death as the same may happen to me also. May be it is in your blood. That is why you conveniently forget atrocities by your brothers (at the instance of Congress) and read between the lines. I am not a BJP supporter and do not believe they are protecting us. You will say even government documents are false if it is against your argument. It was done on September 11 putting the blame on Mossad giving reason that no Israeli died in that attack though hundreds of them died on that day. I am not going to reply you hereafter even if you call me a coward.

@Prem from Singapora
>>>But we do not make it a big issue. Assuming that more Muslims were killed than Hindus,

It is amusing to learn the thinking of BJP Cheddis, You drive comfort in this assimption? What a pity, after 60 years, having settled/reside in a cosmopolitan city like singapore,you and your ilk drive pleasure in the assumption of fellow citizens suffering, just coz their religion is different.

What can a say.....just feel pity on you!

Advani & Bajpai blew it up same way Jawaher blew up Kashmir & Tibet, Indira blew up Bhindranwale & Rajiv blew it up with Shahbano. Rahul is not capable to blew up even a piece of grass!!!

Zulfiqar! My Muslim friends know who I am. Media and Congress by, displaying post Godhra everyday are not allowing the Muslim's wound to heal. But cleverly they do not talk about pre Godhra or Kashmir or other riots where Hindus were killed. According to government report every year more Hindus are killed than others in violence. Sometimes we have to pay price for Sadaam's hanging, Danish cartoon or Bush's visit. But we do not make it a big issue. Assuming that more Muslims were killed than Hindus, I would say statistics does not study individuals. I do not have any hatred or feeling of victimisation. I thank you for your polite but strong arugument.

@Prem Kishen from Singapore,

When did I say congress is any different but you are right "Even if you murder somebody Congress will not punish you because they will loose your vote" except they do the opposite ala srikrishna report and Gujrat massacre.

About Congress appeasement of Muslims,didn't we witnessed during Delhi election a cold blooded Murder...err Encounter in Batla house? Oh boy did congress been rewarded for that, you bet!! It is sure way of getting Votes of selfdoubting, perceived victimised and Hurt Hindus.

Vote Advani as he is also hurt and feel victimised, but you are in singapore........drop your hatred and have a good time.

Totally aggree with Shekar Gupta. BJP lately has become more or less a brain dead party. The leadership has no clue Hindutva logic is a dead and moot issue politically and in the mindset of most of its urban sypathizers. The country needs a governence of Modi's Gujarat minus rss bent and Hindutva. UPA does not deserve to be back after blowing away great to oppurtunities to lay good infrastructure foundations for a 21st century modern country. BUT BJP-NDA failed to project a wiser alternative. It is country's loss. We are all looking for a visionary leader... Where is one?

Speaking up for the Hindus is presently the biggest crime in India. Malaysia with just 60.5% Muslims have declared themselves an Islamic state. Of the balance 39.5%, majority are Hindus of Indian origin at the receiving end. So if political party in India with 85% Hindus want to woo them on religious lines what is wrong. We aren't speaking of Pakistan yet.

Zulfiqar Ali Khan! People who vote for BJP vote for Congress also for change in governance. But persons like you conveniently forget the corruption charges, political killings and other atrocities by Congress becuase they go to any extent to appease you. Even if you murder somebody Congress will not punish you because they will loose your vote

hey bhagwan. oh sorry, that would be a religious statement, right? but frankly, after reading shekhar gupta's comments, that's all i could say. what a come down for shekar gupta, a person i once rated very higuly as a journalist, sadly no more. It's a pity that 85 % of hindu population in india can not unite to give 272 out of 543 seats to BJP and get rid of congress once and for all. i am sure BJP, though no more a party with a difference, would not be as bad as congres has been to the nation.

Hmm...self pitying, hurt, victimised Hindus of India are also agitated. Not just agitated, but down right stooped to insulting anyone questioning the BJP.

I think Media should forget Advani was unavailable during Hostage crisis.

The "Nationalist" BJP released Criminals who waged war against Indian by dropping weapons in Purlia, despite court sentenses.

Media should not ask about the collector agent of BJP during their rule, Mahajan's wealth.

Oh Medai should hence forth stop Mentioning Gujrat, see it is not only BJP!!

Will this satisfy our victimised, self pitiable Hindus???

Don't tell me you are Hurt by this, afterall am against raising the party with a difference's deeds.

All parties / leaders in India - Congress, BJP, Left, BSP, SP - and their leaders - Sonia/Fake Singh Dhongi, Advani/Rajnath, Karat/Yechury, Maya / Mulayam are uselss and AMROAL!

I grew up in Gujrat and I have witnessed atleast two riots a year in Ahmedabad when I could not go to school- now I hear that there has not been single riot since godhra. May be something has happened dont what but it seems peaceful and the muslims in gujrat are financially better off than lot of muslims elsewhere in India.

If the Congress had sacked priminister select Rajive Gandhi after his justifying statement for Delhi pogrom in 1984, yes I would agree what Mr. Gupta is suggesting.

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How Shekar Gupta blew it?.

Shekar Gupta even after receiving awards from the government could have proved his secular credentials in the arrest of Calcutta statesmen editor.

In Europe, the editors all over the continent republished the cartoons in solidarity with the Danish newspaper that made them the champions of press freedom.

Alas, Indian press failed to redeem its credentials in the face of onslaught by the religious fanatics and caved into their demands.

If only they have not done so, people could have still respected the "secular" press in India.

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How does this sound?. :-)

Dear Shri Shekhar Gupta,

I feel you were in a terrible hurry to off-load your deep-seated hatred for the BJP and the so called 'Hindu Right' in your article, "Hindu rate of BJP growth" (Indian Express, 9th May, 2009). In the process, you have expostulated a few theories, which are quite untenable. One such theory is your differentiating between the secular pogrom ordered and achieved by Rajiv Gandhi against the Sikhs and the Gujarat killings of 2002. I have been an eye witness to the former, which I believe you too have witnessed. How is the secular pogrom diffeent from the communal one besides, of course, the religion of the killed? Why no mention of the former while your entire concentration is on the latter?

You have shown that even with so much power at your command, of communication, you have persisted with the myths created by the secular media both on Advani's so called "Jinnah is secular" remarks and Varun Gandhi's so called hate speech. Advani, as clarified by him so often, never anointed Jinnah with the secular paste, it is our secular media which persists in this profitable venture unfailingly. Varun Gandhi too has clarified that his outpourings in the "hate speeches" were specifically against the Pakistani terrorists who regularly come to India, now openly, and wreak havoc. I for one have nothing but pure hatred for these jihadis. But our media, seeped in secular spirit as it is, couldn't be bothered with "facts". You are guilty of not seeing the truth even when it is staring at you.

You have theorised that there is a parallel between the blacks of US and the Muslims of India. Guptaji, there is really no comparison. The blacks have a compact size, are progressive and generally do not hate the other communities. The blacks, besides, do not have two other imprtant 'weapons', besides the size of the community, which are the armour every Muslim grows up with: a)the power to call every Hindu a kafir and b) jihad. Muslims also vote, tactically, strategically and as solid vote banks which the blacks can never emulate.

And once a description as the party of Hindus is stamped against its name, the BJP will never get even a few thousands of Muslim votes. Where then is the possibility of Hindus looking at any party to contain discrimination against themselves despite being 85% of the population, other than the BJP?

If India'a politics is polarised, frozen, fossilised, stalemated, stationery, how can you lay the blame at BJP's door? With the entire media on its beck and call, with the capacity and capability to have the entire Muslim vote bank locked in its favour in election after election, with a large section of Hindus still blindly hero-worshipping it as the party that won freedom for India, why is the congress party shrinking after each election?

And finally, you say, "destroying has always held much greater sex-appeal than building". Is that why the congress party, depsite Narasimha Rao assuring the Muslims that they would build a grand Babri Masjid at the same spot where it earlier stood in a deserted, dilapidated state, has never come down to actually building the mosque?

People like Shekar Gupta should understand that BJP did not play anti-sikh riots by raising the issue on daily basis with the support of west aided media. They wanted to divide people only by religion and not religion and caste by Congress. They do not have western support as none of them is from Italy. They do not throw awards like Padmashree to media who catch it very fast

Well good theory but wouldn't work. Advani to my mind as such has been too idealist in these elections. He is the only one raising very new ideas and that is something he should be credited with. Let's accept one thing all Parties in India wether "Secular" or otherwise work for their percieved massbase and all are divisive. Only BJP is targeted for whatever reasons. Mostly because Hindus don't have major media backing. That has been the tragedy of India, the home of Hinduism. Everything in India relating to Muslims and Christians gets backing not only from Global Media, it "shames" the Indian Media as well and they support it even more than the international organisations do. Now let's see what does a party like Congress do. In the name of "secularism" it looks for Muslim and Christian votes and the looks at some or the other caste in Hindus to support it. That's what other parties do. So all parties are extremely divisive. Unfortunately, it is just the BJP which gets the flak. nadigram is fine with our Media. In no program such uncomfortable questions be asked from marxists in any TV Program, but a BJP guy in any program will be reminded of Gujarat. Same is with congress. This party has been responsible for innumerable riots in India starting from the Partition, plently of caste based riots, Sikh Riots, keeping a blind eye on violence against the North Indians and South Indians in Maharasthra, allowin illegal conversions and rampant anti national activities, but nobody will raise this questions. only party which will be asked to explain and reform is BJP.

Shekar Gupta limit your walk the talk to express only,do not cone on TV debates,may be 10 janpath licking,monetery benefit is comming your way. You have the substance do not waste it

What a rotten inheritor is Padma Bhushan Shekhar Gupta. He has accepted the honorific in return for killing and cremating Ramnath Goenka's original Indian Express which did a brilliant job of exposing Sonia's tyrant mother-in-law. The Indian Express of today is not worth the paper it is printed on and Shekhar Gupta is always ready with gratuitous advice for the BJP.

He takes it in his stride when he is dubbed a running dog of the US imperialists by Prakash Karat. He takes the insults with a smile because he earns his bread and butter from Prakash Karat's brother-in-law Pranay Roy's NTDV which has thrown a crumb called "Walk the Talk" to him.

Even more sinster is the fact that another disgusting Commie, Sitaram Yechury, already has more than a foot inside the Indian Express. Yechury's wife is the Resident Editor of Indian Express in Delhi.

Shame on Shekhar Gupta.

Fully agree with Shekhar on this. For any institution to be accepted by a constituency larger than its core support group it has to be seen to do the 'right' thing on tricky issues. One of the reasons the Congress party has ruled India for so long is because a large number of people still think it will do the right thing on most issues. Now this is not to say that it has done so always. Its record is far from acceptable but it still manages to convey that impression. The BJP's refusal to do what seemed like the obvious reduces its acceptability.

Just like experimenting and research in laboratory for finding a medicine against bald, this sekhar Gupta is trying all ways to satisfy his madamme and kids.

Shekhar Gupta has gone from being a journalist to a Gandhi family toe-licker so this comes as no surprise. His juvenile logic is; The whole world knows that Hindus were burnt alive in the train but the blame must be placed on them and who better than the chief minister. Earlier today Varun was absolved of any wrong doing so what's Shekhar's point now! Shekhar now comes out looking like a complete idiot. Trying to influence voters by favoring congress is a job of a paid writer not a journalist. Shekar you should continue to lick the italian feet till such day they are up your throat.

It is a stupid writing by Shekar Gupta.If Vajpayee had Modi step down or Varun not selected for Pilibhit,does he think Muslims would have come closer to BJP?Does he not know that Muslims would not forget Babri demolition,though they think they have the divine right to demolish thousnds of Hindu temples over centuries.The problem with people like Shekar Gupta is that only Hindu leaders should be right,but Muslims can roast alive innocent women and children at Godhra station.He does not even suggest that Muslim leaders should have condemned the orgy,which would have prevented the aftermath.Gupta is just insufferable.

Hmm.. advice from the secular media to BJP . yes thats exactly what BJP wants. BJP can rather commit suicide rather than give in to secular blackmail.

Did I hear any comment from Shekar Gupta when the newspaper editor was arrested in Bengal on charges of blasphemy?.

Now block my comment. this is non secular.. :-)

I fully endorse Sekhar's view.Lack of spine on part of these leaders lost my vote.If BJP ever longs to be in power on its own, it will have to position itself to the right of centre rather than its current position of so-called savior of Hinduism. we do not need in our country these self-proclaimed saviors.Hinduism has survived over thousands of years and would do so in future.But India is in peril with Hindutva idealogy.