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Dec 27, 2012
02:18 AM
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deepak atta
dallas, United States
2/D-18
Dec 27, 2012
02:26 AM
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deepak atta
dallas, United States
3/D-28
Dec 27, 2012
03:25 AM

People who have the Indra Gandhi mentality can never do any good to anyone!!!

Maanav
Hyderabad, India
4/D-90
Dec 27, 2012
12:18 PM

"Female constable said to my friend: 'yahan law nahi chalta' #ParliamentStreet"

Whatever else might be the truth or not. Whether this was said or not .... it is the truth in this world's supposed largest democracy (sorry "elected monarchy" for now) - near non existent "rule of law" on the ground except on paper whose value is less then toilet roll.

It is the middle (aspirational) class that really needs functioning "rule of law" to sustain and grow. Till now this class was very small and unassertive, so all was well for the powers that be (the rich and the governing class). Now of course, there is a change - the middle class is growing, crossing a threshold in numbers that matters, restive because they are more aware of the world and what is possible (especially as they see/experience the developed world). The media (modern ones - 24x7 TV, social media) also helps in amplifying the voice, since the media depends on this class for its revenues - as the advertisers primarily speak to this class. Hence, for a while expect the collision course to continue until the governing class can shed it's "colonial" mindset - calling themselves public servants but actually being lords of the public.

As a word of caution, the middle class though should well remember that "rule of law" will work for it, if and only if "rule of law" works for the lowest of the low - those at the margins - and in a country like India various "margins" is where a majority still live. And if the middle class keeps growing not just by virtue of birth which means actively support ways to get to "universal education" and "healthcare". That means it must also take up battles on behalf of those who are not yet "like them" for their own survival and progress - enlightened self interest. I say this because this is a serious challenge given the deeply heirarchical nature of our society and very unstable power/powerlessness situation in our society.

Arun Maheshwari
Bangalore, India
5/D-147
Dec 27, 2012
07:06 PM

There needs to be a purge of the entire top police structure of the Delhi Police. Whether the cops at the police station acted on their own initiative or on instructions from "higher ups" is irrelevant. This is a culture which needs to be squashed and unless senior officers are held accountable ther will be no change.

Bonita
Chennai, India
6/D-110
Dec 28, 2012
03:32 PM

Agreed Bonita, if heads of the higher-ups don't roll, change cannot come .... the people at the bottom of the heirarchy are just scapegoats and an eyewash.

However, until and unless there is clarity from "the people" of the redlines that matter, that cannot be crossed and if done result in losing elections, change cannot happen. In developed countries - people have clarity on these red lines and so the powers that be behave by-and-large. Then the political class will draw the red lines for the higher ups in the rest of the administrative machinery which cannot be cross because it will affect their electoral fortunes.

Today the political class still believes it wins due to various allegiances of caste, religion, region, family, money power, alcohol and freebies. The middle class has to draw these lines at least in the consitituencies where it decides the fate. Let us see how AAP does in the next elections and that will tell is it more of the same or there is change.

Arun Maheshwari
Bangalore, India
7/D-111
Dec 28, 2012
03:38 PM

  Suppose a group of 15 women(ladies) thought you were anti-social, and wanted to accost you. If you were needed somewhere, you would need to go there. Otherwise, you would either experience some intimidation, or a need to try not to be a 'victim'. If this policeman had felt he was accosted, and others felt the policeman felt so, and wasn't doing anything, he might have been attacked by a group of a 100, and might have been dead. I think, the two ladies should have protested not among people who appeared that it didn't matter that violence could happen. If you happen to know a rapist, agitate peacefully, and in large numbers, where he would be usually. People should generally know, that when a large group of people look pretty unhappy, and seem to be from the same purpose, that unusual measures should not be taken. Usually, the govt. imposes curfew, when govt. property and govt. employees are in danger. It would really make sense, and be most effective, if one agitated in large numbers in front of the rapist, and peacefully. The police cannot prevent crime, if society is seen to encourage crime, by those seen as criminals.

Aditya Mookerjee
Belgaum, India
8/D-5
Dec 29, 2012
12:18 AM

This is shameful! Police restraint is so vital if we want to be called either civilized or democratic.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
9/D-138
Dec 29, 2012
04:46 PM

 Arun Maheswari >> As a word of caution, the middle class though should well remember that "rule of law" will work for it, if and only if "rule of law" works for the lowest of the low - those at the margins - and in a country like India various "margins" is where a majority still live. And if the middle class keeps growing not just by virtue of birth which means actively support ways to get to "universal education" and "healthcare".

Pardon me , but why is that some people bring this CLASS issue in every such case? 

Rule of Law is Rule of Law. It applies to everyone, be it rich, middle class and poor.

And what has rule of law and enforcing it to do with healthcare and education investments? It is like telling that doctors must treat STD/AIDS patients first before attending to malaria affected patients..

The primary, or first responsiblity of a government is ENFORCING LAW AND ORDER ON ALL CITIZENS. And for that, we , India as a country should invest sufficienty in LAW AND ORDER. We are a nation of 120 crore people, huge teeming cities and large diverse  population. But do we have adequate number of police stations, women police personnel, courts and judges in first place?

I read this week that Judges get a 10 day vacation for Christmas. Come on- In a country where there is so much backlog of cases, Judiciary should come under ESMA and we should have like hospitals, courts that work non stop, 12 hours , 7 days a week, 365 days an year. Are hospitals closed for 10 day christmas or 3 day diwali holidays?

Just like we expect India or any nation to invest say 5% of its GDP on healthcare and education, we should invest 1-2% of GDP compulsorily on internal law and order . And we should have more police force (and diverse one, diversity not just in caste or religion but in class and gender too) and judiciary should be expanded to clear all the backlog of court cases and as a nation we should invest in forensic evidence gathering to deliver speedy justice to the affected. And we are not talking about all these at all!!

Ramki
Delhi, India
10/D-139
Dec 29, 2012
04:48 PM

 And very importantly, why dont we have legal education as part of school curriculum? Our Left Liberal bleeding hearts are demanding that sex education be brought early right in middle schools. But what about education on our legal systems, our common laws, our legal grievance redressal mechanisms and our constitutinal rights and duties? Why is that we dont expand the scope of all these and ensure that every school passed out adult knows what to do when he or she is assaulted (sexually or not), cheated, burgled, and denied some public service?

This , is MUCH MUCH More important than teaching the techniques of masturbation and blowjobs in school curriculum .

Ramki
Delhi, India
11/D-133
Dec 30, 2012
05:29 PM

 The police were acting on the orders of Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi, the cowards who were scared of India's daughters. They want themselves to be safe, let everybody else go to hell.

Dinesh Kumar
Chandigarh, India
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