POSTED BY bapa ON Nov 05, 2009 AT 00:01 IST ,  Edited At: Nov 05, 2009 00:01 IST

Outlook carried an article by Pakistani author Khurram Hussain, To Understand Pakistan, 1947 Is The Wrong Lens purporting to tell Indians something about Pakistan that he thinks Indians don't know.

Here is a quote:

"But again, no one in India accounts for 1971 when making such grand universalising (and, if I may add, genuinely noble) plans for the future of the region. Pakistani intellectual elites share with their Indian counterparts the normative horror of what the West Pakistani military did in the East. How can anyone in their right mind not deem such behaviour beyond the pale? But horror does not preclude abiding distaste for the Indian state's wilful opportunism in breaking Pakistan apart. It is for this reason that while the intellectual classes in Pakistan, especially the English language press and prominent university scholars, have almost always condemned their state's involvement in terrorist activity inside India proper, they have remained largely quiet concerning Kashmir. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Kashmir does not seem so different to them than East Pakistan."

Here's the full article.

1971 is indeed the right measure with which to understand Pakistan, but not in the way the author paints it. Khurram Husain's token pieties about "such behavior" (can he come up with even less judgmental terms, maybe?) notwithstanding, this kind of bogus moral equation between Kashmir and Pakistan's 1971 genocide sums up the problem that is Pakistan,  more clearly than any sophistry by that country's intellectuals. "Moral bankruptcy" is not too strong an expression to describe their continuing indifference to the realities of what their country did in 1971.

As for Pakistani concerns about India's plotting against them, even pretending for a moment that there is actually something to that,  they still fail to consider that it would  make perfect sense for India to take firm and assertive action in Kashmir and elsewhere to forestall and roll back any additional expansion by a military power that represents a monstrous culture and a mindset that (a) slaughters and rapes a mind-boggling number of its own citizens because they were not proper Muslims, or short, dark and lungi-wearing instead of tall, fair & salwar-wearing--these were the Pakistanis' actual stated moral justifications in those less artful times--and (b) seems perfectly content to remain what they have shown themselves to be, by virtue of (a). I mean, they don't exactly say that they are proud of what they did in 1971, but as a culture and a nation, they don't seem all that ashamed of it, either, in the way that the Germans learned to be ashamed of their Nazi doings. (And yes, that's a perfectly fair analogy, if anything a bit unfair to the Nazis who took about a decade to exterminate 7 million or so, while the Pakistanis took less than 6 months to kill upwards of a million. And mass rape wasn't part of the Nazi agenda, albeit for their own sick reasons.)

This article is a perfect example of what is really wrong with what is sadly, an example of perhaps the best and most thoughtful brains that Pakistan has to offer--they can't, or won't, come to terms with the fact that there is something wrong with being focused on their loss to what they consider an inferior "Hindu" India, all the while having no interest to speak of in examining what it is about their civilizational mindset that makes it all right for them to blithely gloss over one of the most sickening crimes against humanity their country committed in 1971.

Most Indians, and certainly those that were alive in 1971, understand this instinctively (and this understanding is not just conveniently confined to the Indian "state" either but extends to the people), but are generally too polite or otherwise inhibited to say it out loud. That reticence probably accounts for what I'll charitably call this author's confusion. Others might see it as classic Pakistani sophistry that is meant to manipulate a generation of young Indians who might be unfamiliar with the historical and human realities of what happened in 1971.

POSTED BY bapa ON Nov 05, 2009 AT 00:01 IST ,  Edited At: Nov 05, 2009 00:01 IST
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23/D-44
Nov 14, 2009
07:22 AM
There are other simple reasons why Indians need to know about an enemy at the backyard and who was born on an anti India plank and tries to sustain on the same plank.We can see in Kashmir today what the separatists are up to if some of the present Indian generations would want to have a glimpse of a situation before the partition.Then it was the Indian Muslim league and now its the Pakistani Muslim league that is conspiring another partition of Kashmir.
A can full of sins that Pakistan is today and its over spilling.Sooner or later there will be total anarchy.The enemies of India in Pakistan and their counterparts here in India led the war against the state of India.We on the other hand are so lethargic an tied down by vote bank compulsions that some other country like America had to help us identify who were behind the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai.Looks like our secular politicians never made an honest attempt to nab the culprits.
Today the eyes of the entire world are focused on Pakistan but for wrong reasons.The mother of terror that its now well known or a jihadi factory to be precise is falling from its own weight of sins.Pakistan waged or forced upon us three wars and miserably failed.It always wanted to compete with India unnecessarily.Its a name sake democracy where its the Military's writ that runs.It was deprived of its commonwealth country membership twice for deliberately not restoring democracy and its poor human rights record.What is there to know further about Pakistan a country carved out of India by conspiring with the British and back stabbing the Indian freedom movement.Probably no country in the world has anything to learn from Pakistan.
lookout
Bangalore, India
22/D-91
Nov 13, 2009
11:16 PM
FAREED AMEEN:

Hindus (all the sane ones) have an EXTREMELY miserable self-image. I say this as a Hindu. There is very good reason for it.

Why was India so easily overrun by foreigners so many times, Hindu temples smashed, its peoples slaughtered, raped and forcibly converted to Islam, etc?

Simply because the Hindus have been too poor fighters to defend their country - with the exceptions of the Sikhs, some Rajputs, the Mahrattas, the Vijayanagaris - exceptions that prove the rule.

Hindus are pacific, caste-bound and poorly nourished people, made weedy by their vegetarian oriented diet. They are generally darker, uglier, shorter, thinner than the Pakistanis. This can be seen with the naked eye.

Hindus are well aware of all this, feel their inferiority and are thus amazed when once in a while a Muslim army is defeated as in 1971 by their feeble selves.

What all this blunt truth shows is that Muslims have no reason to fear Hindus. Let them live in their poor and very dirty land and you all live in your wonderful truly Arab paradise.

OK?
K. KALAM
AGRA, India
21/D-75
Nov 13, 2009
08:50 PM
I would encourage these fine members of the Sangh Parivar to read their comments before they post. For they continue to confirm their complexes over and over again. So, George, for example,... last name unknown says

QUOTE:
If there is no hostility,how would ujustify the pakistan army budget while civilians get peanuts. By 2010, pakistan economy will be 9 percent that of india. Fast forward another fifty years,it will decrease to less than five percent. And you will still be talkng of hostility. You might as well go back to your village in Pakistan.
UNQUOTE:

Aren't you wasting a lot of time and emotion for a relatively insignificant country next to your borders. Why all this bile for something decidedly miniscule and irrelevant?

Meanwhile, Jay says...
"This weak Hindu woman also had to create a country for 75 million Muslim East Pakistani's so that they can live in peace."

Again, the emphasis is on "weak". Why do you always consider yourselves less. You aren't. You are just as good as us. Now, now... I hope you fell better.

Finally, the erudie Mr. Shekhar states...
"Pakistani ideology is based on the archaic, obnoxious, idiotic notion of the martial, conquering, beef eating Moslem races, as distinct from the wimpy, effiminate, vegetarian non-martial, conquered Indian/Hindu peoples."

I am amazed at what a poor self image you have. I have myself never been there but am reliably informed that India and its inhabitants possess great charm, culture and style. And that Tendulkar isn't such a bad fellow...
Fareed Ameen
London, United Kingdom
20/D-42
Nov 13, 2009
12:26 PM
Farid Amin,
For one thing where have you read this comment. I have looked up all of Indiara Gandhi's comments-nowhere has she said this.

Further, are you sober or hallucinating when you say that Indians feel inferior to Pakistanis-can any Pakistani with his hand on his heart even in his wildest imagination think this, forget about Indians thinking so.

In fact Pakistani hostility arises from the realisation that all their mean and negative actions to try and pull India down to their level have each time failed.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
Atul Chandra
mUMBAI, INDIA
19/D-33
Nov 13, 2009
09:07 AM
Pakistani ideology is based on the archaic, obnoxious, idiotic notion of the martial, conquering, beef eating Moslem races, as distinct from the wimpy, effiminate, vegetarian non-martial, conquered Indian/Hindu peoples. This is their guiding, foundational ideology. People are right when they say there cannot be lasting peace between these two entities. Pakistan would have to become mature, intelligent and self-respecting, but when that happens, there will be no Pakistan. And that's the beauty of it.
Varun Shekhar
Toronto, CANADA
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