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POSTED BY Sundeep Dougal ON Dec 23, 2011 AT 02:34 IST ,  Edited At: Dec 23, 2011 02:34 IST

Yes, they are totally right in their demand for an independent CBI, and on most other contentious points of the Lokpal Bill

Yes, we need not put too fine a point on this —the whole posturing with reservations and particularly the controversy over "minorities" in the Lokpal Panel is usual cynical delaying tactics by Congress with an eye to UP elections.

Yes, while the BJP is (correctly) tarred with being communal, the Congress's own "electoral communalism" in particular, and tokenism has always been at least as blatant. And even more brazen.

Yes, we could get into which communalism is more dangerous, and how these two parties fuel each other's competitive communalism, but those debates are meaningless. 

For now, in addition to asking for a strong Lokpal, with all the safeguards they are insisting on, Team Anna would be well-advised to also demand at least one basic electoral reform.

I am not asking for right to recall, option to vote for none, state funding, restoring representative ness by removal of party whips etc., important though they are. We can debate those later.

For now, all I am asking for is going back to a system where at least all Assembly and Parliament elections, if not all —including local and municipal and panchayat elections — are held simultaneously.

You cannot stop politicians from trying to play to what they consider are their constituencies. But what you can do is to minimise the need for them to do so: this way, it would only be once in five years.

We need to stop the 'permanent election mode' in the country. That alone would be a step towards getting out of policy paralysis and competitive populism because of some upcoming state election or the other.

Also read: On Quotas in general, an old Pratap Bhanu Mehta's 2010 article: Our wonderful quotocracy

POSTED BY Sundeep Dougal ON Dec 23, 2011 AT 02:34 IST ,  Edited At: Dec 23, 2011 02:34 IST
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Ganesh Purohit
Udaipur, India
13/D-64
Dec 25, 2011
04:36 PM

Surely,5 is more representative than 2,the Italian combo of mother and son, who are deciding everything for the Congress.

S.S.Nagaraj
Bangalore, India
12/D-41
Dec 24, 2011
01:25 PM

Ramki,

>> Going by same logic, Election Commission and Judiciary should alsobe under control of elected government.

Given the huge bureaucracy and power of the Lokpal, the risk of its becoming a parallel government with dictatorial powers is much greater than with the Election Commission or the Supreme Court, neither of whom by the way have their own investigative agencies.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
11/D-21
Dec 24, 2011
11:09 AM

Anwaar >> A powerful body such as the CBI should be under an elected government rather than under an unelected Lokpal

Going by same logic, Election Commission and Judiciary should alsobe under control of elected government.

You seem to have forgotten that any body that serves under elected government (read as ruling politicians) is nothing but an extended wing of government. Given that the ruling government is the biggest source of corruption,abuse of power and destruction of natural justice, giving CBI to Govt is like asking a tiger to take care of a lamb.

Ramki
Delhi, India
10/D-3
Dec 24, 2011
03:20 AM

Amit,

>>  "A wise enemy is better than a foolish friend."

Thank you.

>> what is your issue with keeping CBI free from the govt. interference?

I suggested once  that the CBI should be split into two, one part investigating corruption to be under the Lokpal, and the rest of CBI to be under the Home Minister. But I can see the government's position too. A powerful body such as the CBI should be under an elected government rather than under an unelected Lokpal. That is the case in all democratic countries. The BJP has similar concerns about the Lokpal becoming too powerful or dictatorial, but the BJP leans towards reducing the Lokpal's prosecutorial powers rather than reducing its investigative powers. 

>> congratulations on having an unlikely ally--Shiv Sena.

The Shiv Sena does not want a Lokpal. I like the idea of having a Lokpal. I don't like the idea of an unelected group such as Team Anna dictating each and every line of the draft bill, although they have every right to hold protests demanding action against corruption. I also do not think the solution to the corruption problem lies in our putting all our eggs in the Lokpal basket.

Anwaar
Dallas, United States
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